where in the bible does it state that adam and eve are unrepentant sinners and therefore deemed forever in the grave with no chance of resurrection, of course?
is this another scare tactic for the weak-minded recruits?
i believe their theory is based on mere speculation and simply used to convince the new recruits as well as the experienced members to refrain from questioning/going against their superiors otherwise jehovah will deem you an unrepentant sinner.
Earthfire, whete did you learn Adam was created petfect? Where in the bible does it state this?
If Adam was created perfect how could he become imperfect? that would be impossible.
You may say he had free-will but that does not mean Adam was created perfect.
my jw friend of 20 years, the first one i ever met, the one who got me into jwism in the first place, unfriended me from facebook without explanation.
other jws who have unfriended me at least called me names (apostate) and told me they were unfriending me, but they were no loss.
but someone who's been your friend since you were 13...and no explanation...i'd think 20 years- 20 years!
cantleave true, but the shunner is the one thats really hurting themselfs. Oh i know that sounds a little weak, but with time the shunned grow stonger and the shunners even if they never realize it are the victims.
Having said that i understand the pain of being shunned. And i deal with that pain with the above thoughts. It helped.
my jw friend of 20 years, the first one i ever met, the one who got me into jwism in the first place, unfriended me from facebook without explanation.
other jws who have unfriended me at least called me names (apostate) and told me they were unfriending me, but they were no loss.
but someone who's been your friend since you were 13...and no explanation...i'd think 20 years- 20 years!
Wow i try to rationalize shunning. Those that shun do so because its in there nature to shun. I have friends who are completley incapable of such behaviour.
I remember smiling at a disfellowshipped person who came to the meeting. The elders spoke with me. " we are dealing with it"
That event was an eye opner. I couldnt understand the problem. The guy was newly baptised when he got disfellowshipped for smoking. Hardly a reason for shunning.
This woman was never really Julia Orwells friend but Sister Julia Orwells friend.
so given the amount of focus on things that we can be angry or upset about, or how we have been wronged or abused.... i thought it was time for a bit of a change.. how about sharing some fun experiences?!!
ok, i will start.
i promised, in my opening post the other day, that i would share some that have happened over the years.
I had a study who refularly attended meetings and raised her hand. Anyway she invites members of the congregation too a party at her place. Because the elders think she is progressing so well they and many in the congregation attend. They arrive to her brand of christian music and members of her church who i must say were not botherd by our presence.
I was told later by the elder that i was responsible for creating a very uncomftorble situation for the witnesses that attended and that he assumed she was more advanced in " the truth" than that.
lucky, luck, magic, fortune, etc...do you also know some of them that just shrugged it off and still went there to eat?.
Burger King...Home of the WHOPPER
MCdonalds Big Mac
Now the horse meat and mad cow disease is that a problem?
maybe the people who discover new light are just having fun?
they sit there in brooklyn and say too each other " overlapping generation yea thats hilarious".
well if thats the case i hope people are wakeing up to the joke.. g.b reply " but you have to understand our audience, you see its made up of many people who want to hear our brand of comedy and not think about anything".
So how much money did you giveto the " charity shop" ?
i was thinking that most indoctrinated christians i know seem never to ever question their faith.
no matter how sound the reasoning for another belief.in fact the stronger the argument destroying the christians beliefs the more proof positive the indoctrinated christian becomes of its evil origins.
satan, alert and the built in defence system against reason or logic takes effect.. the above is just my personal observation .
Sorry to bumb, but no replys in 36 hours!
Brilliant title " imitate faith" it implies you can be individual, the reality is so different.
i was thinking that most indoctrinated christians i know seem never to ever question their faith.
no matter how sound the reasoning for another belief.in fact the stronger the argument destroying the christians beliefs the more proof positive the indoctrinated christian becomes of its evil origins.
satan, alert and the built in defence system against reason or logic takes effect.. the above is just my personal observation .
I was thinking that most indoctrinated Christians i know seem never to ever question their faith. No matter how sound the reasoning for another belief.In fact the stronger the argument destroying the Christians beliefs the more proof positive the Indoctrinated christian becomes of its evil origins. SATAN, ALERT and the built in defence system against reason or logic takes effect.
The above is just my personal observation . But i have noticed my Christian friends who do not go to church regularly rarely bible bash and tend to believe in God and not the Devil whilst indoctinated Christians seem to believe in the Devil but not God, or at least sin rather than forgiveness.
the jehovah`s witnesses have been saying this for decades .do you beleive it to be true ?
/ false ?.
what do the facts show.
WAKE UP JEHOVERS WITNESS, lift yourself up out of this illusionand heal your perception that you might know reality. And reality is you live in a spiritual paradise or your life will be made a living Hell, if you dont think that way so says the governing body.
